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A 'brainwave' from the Fitness First marketing team in the Netherlands - public shaming. As someone innocently sits to wait for a bus the billboard flashes the persons weight in red numerals for all to see.

From one of my favorite blogs

I suppose one could argue that the number displayed on its own, in the absence of any other information, statements, or implicit value judgement, is subject to any interpretation. But given the society we live in, given that the "advertisment" is for a gym company, it's hard to imagine any other intent than to shame a specific subset of the population for whatever number is displayed while they are waiting for a bus. This absolutely disgusts me.

If FF Australia follow suit with this "advertising" campaign, I will be taking a pot of paint, a photographer and my big fat arse to the bus stop. All that empty sign space needs some words added.

Date: 2009-04-06 03:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cubboy.livejournal.com
that is such an invasion of privacy

Date: 2009-04-07 06:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] doctornurse.livejournal.com
Totally off topic, but yay for uni happiness!

Date: 2009-04-06 11:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] doctornurse.livejournal.com
That is INSANE. That space is begging for some activism :)

Date: 2009-04-06 11:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/kitty_kitty_/
It actually doesn't surprise me that this is done in the Netherlands. I don't think I've ever seen a fat Dutch person. They all smoke too much to eat. I swear, I'm only exaggerating a little.

What I'm actually saying is that the culture in the Netherlands means that the general public would not find this offensive. It's hard to explain, but they prefer harsh realities to politeness.

Does that make it right? Absolutely not. It does mean that Fitness First in Australia wouldn't dream of doing it in a Australia, because it would cause offence. Instead, they'll just keep targeting skinny people on King St, because they seem to only want a certain type of person in their gym. And this time, I'm not exaggerating at all. >:[

Date: 2009-04-07 12:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] grey-evil-twin.livejournal.com
Agree about the Dutch. They're weird and blunt.

Also, not surprised about FF targetting skinny people. Fucktards.

Date: 2009-04-07 12:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quiregrrl.livejournal.com
I lived in Antwerp for a year and visited The Netherlands more times than I can remember, and I assure you there are plenty of fat dutch folk. Usually older, but definitely still there. And the weight-consciousness was certainly present in the Dutch (and Dutch-speaking Belgian) cultures when I was living over there 16 years ago. I imagine it's gotten worse, rather than better, since then. I know what you mean about the culture being a lot more matter-of-fact and blunt, but I'm not convinced that this kind of advertising wouldn't be seen as less offensive by the general public in The Netherlands than it would be here.

I actually think that the majority of people who fall into an "acceptable" weight range would not find it offensive at all, and I think an attitude of "well don't sit there, or lose some weight if it bothers you" would probably be most prevalent in both countries. But I would wager a years salary that there are plenty of women in Holland who are self-conscious about their weight, for whom this kind of "advertising" would have the impact of making them feel more self-conscious, and feeding thier self-hate.

I absolutely agree re FF in Sydney though, the one on Oxford St frequently have staff out front handing out fliers, but they only target skinny fit folk as well...

Date: 2009-04-07 12:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/kitty_kitty_/
Ah, see, I've only ever lived with Dutch people in Australia and spent a week there at the most (and only in Amsterdam). My perception is probably skewed.

WTF is up with Fitness First only targeting a certain type of person? Everyone needs exercise! It's not supposed to be a 'cool club'! Having a marketing attitude like that only furthers the insecurities people have with their body, skinny or fat, in that 'nobody will like you if you don't look like us'. RARGH!

Date: 2009-04-07 05:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quiregrrl.livejournal.com
"And we're not going to help you look like us because you have to prove that you're worthy of belonging to our club first, ya lazy lump!" ... yeah, i don't get it either... at the very least it seems like bad business practice to alienate the section of the community that is traditionally most ambivalent about attending a gym... maybe that has something to do with it though, perhaps it just seems too much like work to actually encourage non-gym-junkies to try your gym out, rather than go for the easy targets of people who are already interested??

Date: 2009-04-07 06:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/kitty_kitty_/
I suppose that's exactly it - why bother with what they consider to be a hard sell (a fatty) when they could go for an easy sell (someone who is thin and without a hair out of place, even after an hour at the gym)?

Date: 2009-04-07 04:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwen666.livejournal.com
"Smoking keeps you thin" was a myth invented by Madison Avenue to increase the number of smokers in the market by making smoking attractive to women.

http://www.ukmedix.com/champix/smoking-obese.cfm



Date: 2009-04-07 05:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quiregrrl.livejournal.com
Erm, I don't believe she was seriously suggesting that smoking keeps you thin. Aside from anything else like intelligence, rationality etc, she's friends with me and I am proof positive that smoking like a chimney doesn't stop you from being a Fatty McFatFat...

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